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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 12/31/2009 :  14:21:40  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is my original Allis sickle bar mower. Please forgive the Cat yellow paint job but I was anxious to get something on it to stop the rusting. I will be looking at a restore as soon as I can locate the proper decals and after I have received my new idler pulleys which were backordered. I have the Simplicity sickle bar operator's manual and of course I don't have an AC mfg # but I was wandering which Simplicity number is this mower's counterpart. I have ruled out 990210 which is the mower with the handle lift. but what is the difference between the 990346, 402, 465, 538, 548, 623,and 990687? If someone can identify, what is the AC number on this unit?










Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin

Edited by - skunkhome on 12/31/2009 22:18:37

B112

USA
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Posted - 12/31/2009 :  15:31:19  Show Profile  Visit B112's Homepage Send B112 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks good! I've got a cable lift one I've got to get to one day, original AC yellow with rust.


Michael
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biggie_rat

USA
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Posted - 01/02/2010 :  09:23:38  Show Profile  Visit biggie_rat's Homepage Send biggie_rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's like the one I have mounted on an Allis 716. But it was said to have come off a Simplicity 2000 or 3000 series. No lift handle and uses the short cable/pulley lift bracket. I have books on these, but right now I am in 72 degrees and the book are in the frozen tundra of 7 degrees.

B.R.
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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 01/02/2010 :  10:29:47  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by biggie_rat

It's like the one I have mounted on an Allis 716. But it was said to have come off a Simplicity 2000 or 3000 series. No lift handle and uses the short cable/pulley lift bracket. I have books on these, but right now I am in 72 degrees and the book are in the frozen tundra of 7 degrees.

B.R.

Yeah Simplicity lists several mfg # with the exact same parts list with no special notations. What goes with that?

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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biggie_rat

USA
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Posted - 01/02/2010 :  11:11:12  Show Profile  Visit biggie_rat's Homepage Send biggie_rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My book is a Simplicity book and it shows the same model numbers as what your book does. My guess, mine is possibly a -
46" Sickle Bar 990538
3314V Mfg. No. 990654
Requires Kit No. 103227
since it requires a 'kit'is required, the kit is the cable, pins, bracket and pulley. Or possible another model requiring a 'kit'. Maybe the kit is a horn to warn small animals hiding in the grass.

The 7000 series sickle bar show it as a Model # 785.

Don't know what the Allis equivalent is. I'm sure your buddy knows.

B.R.
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terdybukrat

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  12:27:03  Show Profile  Visit terdybukrat's Homepage Send terdybukrat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While I don't have anything to run it, I just picked up a simplicity #990687(I'm fairly sure that's a 6) which would be the 46"

If at first you don't succeed...grab a bigger hammer!
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freddie

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  12:59:10  Show Profile  Visit freddie's Homepage Send freddie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i could sure use one of those in my collection. there hard to find. a friend of mine has one. but wont sell it to me. whats the going price on them if i might ask?
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1014211

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  14:23:38  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Two on eBay right now....

http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPLICITY-ALLIS-SICKLE-BAR-MOWER-/190399347137?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c54af79c1

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-Simplicity-Sickle-Mower-/140409344393?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b10c9189

Jon
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freddie

USA
2126 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  14:52:32  Show Profile  Visit freddie's Homepage Send freddie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow, i dont even pay that for my tractors, and those are starting bids.
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Leroy

USA
385 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  15:41:01  Show Profile  Visit Leroy's Homepage Send Leroy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could this be modified to work on a simplicity?





Edited by - Leroy on 05/24/2010 15:41:49
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Mack

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  17:45:19  Show Profile  Visit Mack's Homepage Send Mack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Leroy, that appears to be the mower for the Allis 300/400 series tractors. Probably would pin up to a Simplicity. You would need a front PTO to turn it on and off. Plus, there is a bracket that extends back and pins to the rear hitch that is missing in the pictures. I just picked one of these mowers up at the Portland swap meet last week. Will have some pictures up later this week when I finish refurbishing it.

Mack
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skunkhome

USA
11556 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  20:47:41  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1014211

Two on eBay right now....

http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPLICITY-ALLIS-SICKLE-BAR-MOWER-/190399347137?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c54af79c1

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-Simplicity-Sickle-Mower-/140409344393?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b10c9189

the first one belongs to biggie rat.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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Leroy

USA
385 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2010 :  21:29:50  Show Profile  Visit Leroy's Homepage Send Leroy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mack

Leroy, that appears to be the mower for the Allis 300/400 series tractors. Probably would pin up to a Simplicity. You would need a front PTO to turn it on and off. Plus, there is a bracket that extends back and pins to the rear hitch that is missing in the pictures. I just picked one of these mowers up at the Portland swap meet last week. Will have some pictures up later this week when I finish refurbishing it.


I bought it without knowing what it attached to.
Yep i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I was thinking the basic component is there. I will be able to make it work given enough time and dry weather. This assembly is quite heavy so the right hardware to hook this up is necessary.
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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 05/24/2010 :  22:12:15  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just keep in mind that the knives are not supposed to reciprocate more than about 800-900 cycles per minute.
Mine has a reduction of 2:1 off the PTO and I run my tractor at about 1800 rpm when using the mower.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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freddie

USA
2126 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2010 :  11:56:53  Show Profile  Visit freddie's Homepage Send freddie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skunkhome

quote:
Originally posted by 1014211

Two on eBay right now....

http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPLICITY-ALLIS-SICKLE-BAR-MOWER-/190399347137?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c54af79c1

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-Simplicity-Sickle-Mower-/140409344393?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b10c9189

the first one belongs to biggie rat.


opps sorry, biggie rat.
i didnt think they went for that much. once agian, i have never payed more then $200.00 for a complete tractor. and most came with a attachment, mower, snowblower,tiller. thats all i am saying before i get in trouble. l.o.l
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skunkhome

USA
11556 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2010 :  18:01:42  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
freddie, you're in a heap of trouble.

Wait till Ron gets his magic wand out and turns you into a toad.
Only way you can escape is to turn yourself into a 2 cycle engine.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin

Edited by - skunkhome on 05/26/2010 18:03:04
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