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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 01/21/2010 :  22:53:23  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Back to Roy's original post. I now have my hoist mounted to a 2 x 12 below the rafters. I would like to put up a 5ft piece of rail so I can move the lifted object to one side. You guys have been around as much as I, what would you suggest for the rail and rollers?
Thanks for letting me pick you minds!
Chris


East Central South Dakota

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson


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B112

USA
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  01:15:14  Show Profile  Visit B112's Homepage Send B112 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had my 600-800lbs chevy big block engine moved on one of the smallest I-Beams you'd see. The dyno garage had an I-Beam, I think about 2" tall with a trolley and the 1000lbs electric hoist. He would wheel the engine diagonally from a garage into the dyno room. You'd be surprised how small of an I-Beam he used.


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Denny

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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  08:17:58  Show Profile  Visit Denny's Homepage Send Denny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I missed the boat one time,, they had an auction at an old meat locker,, prob had a 1/2 mile of that 2-3" rail,, with turns and intersections. They sold it all for less than scrap price. Boy, would that be handy now !!!! Just think,, hang yer old crapsman on a meat hook,, and out the door !!

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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  09:44:47  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"hang yer old crapsman on a meat hook,, and out the door !!"

That got a laugh out of me Denny! What a great way to start the day.
Thanks,
Chris


East Central South Dakota

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson


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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  10:08:02  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dung is most easily moved with a scoop shovel or manure fork.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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BRAD1975

Canada
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  18:30:37  Show Profile  Visit BRAD1975's Homepage Send BRAD1975 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cvans

Back to Roy's original post. I now have my hoist mounted to a 2 x 12 below the rafters. I would like to put up a 5ft piece of rail so I can move the lifted object to one side. You guys have been around as much as I, what would you suggest for the rail and rollers?
Thanks for letting me pick you minds!
Chris



I would either build one with steel plates and shopping cart wheels or shop around and it you may be surprised at how cheap an already made one is

heres one on sale for only $69 Can

http://www.princessauto.com/shop-garage/repair-equipment/shop-hoist-and-trolleys/8203655-1-ton-trolley?keyword=trolley


it really doesnt look hard to make one but either way I would get the I-beam first and work around whatever size you find...try the local steel yard/wreckers....I scrap a lot of cars and theres always nice beams set aside from building demos at those places
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olcowhand

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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  19:29:37  Show Profile  Visit olcowhand's Homepage Send olcowhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cvans

Back to Roy's original post. I now have my hoist mounted to a 2 x 12 below the rafters. I would like to put up a 5ft piece of rail so I can move the lifted object to one side. You guys have been around as much as I, what would you suggest for the rail and rollers?
Thanks for letting me pick you minds!
Chris



Down in our farm shop, we have a 12" steel I-beam running the length of the 30' shop. Bought a trolley from Harbor Freight & can simply glide the chain hoist all along it. With the long length, we can't pull too heavy an object toward the center of beam, but we do most lifting work near the rear end of the beam anyway, where we can park the tractor/whatever to the side allowing driving through shop into the rest of the barn (where we raise calves).
Just get you a chunk of I-beam as long as you need & mount up there. You wouldn't need 12" beam though. Here's the trolley.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=40493


Daniel in Ky -- So much to do, so little time!





Edited by - olcowhand on 01/22/2010 19:31:39
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Leroy

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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  19:36:54  Show Profile  Visit Leroy's Homepage Send Leroy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cvans

Back to Roy's original post. I now have my hoist mounted to a 2 x 12 below the rafters. I would like to put up a 5ft piece of rail so I can move the lifted object to one side. You guys have been around as much as I, what would you suggest for the rail and rollers?
Thanks for letting me pick you minds!
Chris

I'm thinking about the weight of that rail. And the support for each end. I guess if i wanted to turn a corner, rollers on garage doors hung on the both sides of your 2 X 12 would carry it. A Home grown ply-laminate 2 x 12 with the radius. you want stacked layer by layer until the 2 X 12 radius is built up. This would be cheap and effective.
A 50 Gallon Oil can could serve as a template. Each layer would need to be pressed until cured. The press could be something as simple as another section Oil drum clamped to the mold. Half a drum is 90° Metal plates would join the radius to the existing 2x12 Then the other side would need the be supported to the wall or another 2 x 12 to the wall.

A garage door is pretty heavy and the weight distribution per panel is like two wheels. You could up your wheel count so the spacing is much closer. Putting the bend in the rails for that radius is going to be the challenge. But with a bit of relief cutting before bending and wire-feed welding scraps in the v's, I do believe it would work as good as an automotive assembly conveyor line.

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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  22:29:06  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What I ended up doing was making a beam out of two pieces of 5" channel back to back. I place straps between the channel irons at something like 18" intervals. These are flush with the channel irons on the bottom and stick up about 6" above the top. They have one hole drilled in each one so that the part sticking up can be bolted to the side of the 2"x12" that runs across the rafters. I purchased one of those hoist trollies like Daniel pictured and it runs in the home made beam with the hoist hanging under it. The hoist ended up about 10' off of the ground. I then built an elevated work platform to drive or pull the tractors up onto so I could work on them without having to bend over. Actually worked out better than I hoped for and I didn't have a lot invested in it.
Thanks for the idea though. I will keep it in mind if I want to do something lighter in my other garage or hangar.


East Central South Dakota

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson



Edited by - Cvans on 06/15/2010 22:31:13
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B112

USA
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  22:41:02  Show Profile  Visit B112's Homepage Send B112 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The engine shop which rebuilt my engine uses one of the smallest I-Beams with an electric 1000lbs hoist. Scary sight but he dyno's many engines in that garage, he's not dropped one yet.


Michael
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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  15:41:20  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I could have gotten by with smaller channel irons also but they were on hand so that's what I used. I've always been one to over build things in the name of safety. Probably wasted a lot of money because of this but Oh Well.






East Central South Dakota

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson



Edited by - Cvans on 06/16/2010 15:41:54
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